Gremeg: Wherefore Art Thou Armario Trouble

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  1. HeRocco

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    The trouble I am having with this quest is after killing Armario, the game won't let me talk to Gremag or Davl about it, but it will still let me barter with them. I tried waiting a few days before talking to them again but they still won't talk about the assassination. I killed him at night when he was alone, I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Anyone know what to do with this quest?
     
  2. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Hmmm... his death flag is 297, everything seems in order in the files. Can you let me know 2 things:

    The Wherefore art though Armario quest, its blue?

    And the flag (97), it's set?

    If not, there's your problems. otherwise, can I ask exactly what Gremag says when you engage with him, to see which line it is going to instead of the correct one?
     
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    The quest is blue, but when i put "game.global_flags[97]" (I don't know if that's right) the value is "0" when he is dead and alive.
     
  4. HeRocco

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    Nevermind, it was 297. I put it in and it does check off. So I guess it's a me problem.
     
  5. HeRocco

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    I just went through with random characters and got the quest to kill Armario and it worked this time. My game was just messed up the one time.
     
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    Ok, thanks for letting us know. 297 is Armario's death flag - maybe you accidently hit him with something non-lethal during the fight and he was actually still alive when you left, I don't know.
     
  7. HeRocco

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    He was 100% dead. But I think it was just a one time thing. I went back through doing the quest like 3 or 4 times to make sure. I killed him with the same weapon every time, same character, same everything and it worked every time. Either way, I got it working in the end. Though, Armario had to die quite a few times in multiple different universes before I believed he would stay dead.
     
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  8. HeRocco

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    Nevermind. I found out what was actually causing the glitch. I tried seeing if it was a quest that deactivated it, but no. It was simply having Raimol and specifically Raimol in your party when you talk to Gremag to complete the quest, the option to tell him that you killed Armario will not be there. I tried with Elmo, Ronald, Furnok, Fruella, etc and it worked with them. Raimol is just a special guy. You can't have Raimol in your party at any time if you want to complete the 3 Gremag Assassinations, otherwise Gremag will not talk to you about the assassinations.
    Hopefully this will help anyone who has had the same problem as I did.
     
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  9. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Excellent detective work HeRocco! If Raimol is in the party it diverts just before the assassination quests kick in - line 44 of the .py file. No-one actually hires Raimol, plus I suspect very few people ever do the Assassination quests, so no-one has picked this up. Heh, how many years?

    Here's a hot fix. (Untested!)
     

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  10. HeRocco

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    Raimol still makes the option not appear unfortunately.

    Edit: Another problem I just found out is when you talk to Gremag after finishing the 2nd assassination for Kenter Nevets and go into the third assassination for Terjon, talking with someone who is too dumb to talk correctly will make the quest mentioned and not active, thus making the quest impossible to finish even after killing Terjon.
    I keep finding the most random bugs by playing the way no one ever plays.
     
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  11. Shiningted

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    That's weird, it should work on paper.

    If I may: are you using Temple+? Did you put this in an override folder or whatever they use? Or just stick it in the data/scr folder?
     
  12. HeRocco

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    I am using Temple+ and I put it in the data/scr folder.
     
  13. Shiningted

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    Do you have an overrides folder?

    Can anyone familiar with Temple+ weight in on this? I don't know if hot fixes like this work - do you have to delete the pyc files?
     
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    I am absolutely sure you want to put the file in Temple of Elemental Evil/overrides/scr. Sitra Achara showed me how to modify Spell775-Resonance.py such that the Ring of Resonance works with all spontaneous arcane casters and the modified file resides in overrides/scr

    NOTE before you just create an overrides file READ Sitra Achara's postings on the override file on this site
     
  15. HeRocco

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    I can't figure out how to do this. I've looked at multiple guides and how to do stuff with the overrides folder and such and nothing is working.

    This is my path which I think is correct. Z:\Temple of Elemental Evil\overrides\Rocco's Tweaks\scr\tpModifiers
    Before anyone asks, the mod_specs.json.txt is already in there.
     
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