Trip Attacks

Discussion in 'The Temple of Elemental Evil' started by seidaku, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. seidaku

    seidaku Member

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    A few questions relating to the ToEE implementation of trip attacks:

    • I am getting AoOs made against me when I make a trip attack using a spiked chain; is this a bug? According to the 3.5 rules, a trip attack made with a weapon should not provoke attacks of opportunity. I should also be able to drop my weapon rather than be tripped myself if I fail; this does not appear to be the case.
    • One of my favorite tactics in regular D&D is to use a trip attack with a reach weapon as part of an attack of opportunity (as discussed here) to stop my foe from reaching me. I can ready an action to do this, but there seems to be no way to do a special attack in place of an AoO. Is this not implemented (as I suspect), or is there a way to do it that I'm not aware of?
    • Trip attacks are made in the place of regular melee attacks. Now that I'm higher level and have multiple attacks, I'd like to be able to trip multiple opponents. However, whenever I select 'trip' from the radial menu, it does so as a standard action instead of a full attack. Is there any way I can do a full attack action, and make some/all of my attacks trip attacks instead of normal ones?

    Any help would be appreciated!
     
  2. LionXavier

    LionXavier Werelion Monk

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    Hello seidaku, welcome to the Co8 forums,

    Well, you're also not supposed to be able to trip with any weapon, which is the case in ToEE. As the developers themselves explain in one of the last pages of the manual, ToEE works a bit different in some regards from true D&D 3.5 rules, and this is one of the examples. You can perform trip attacks with EVERY weapon, but it works as if you were unarmed, that is: you provoke an AoO without the Improved Trip feat, and you can't drop your weapon to avoid counter-trip.

    Anyway, there's a way to at least avoid provoking an AoO (at least in some cases) if you trip with an spiked chain (or any other reach weapon for that matter): perform the trip outside the threat range of your opponent (doesn't work with enemies with large threat ranges like giants.)

    Sadly, this is another of those differences between ToEE and D&D 3.5 that the developers clearly referenced in the manual as said before. You can't select what you want to do with an AoO. A shame, realy.

    Read THIS for clarification on how to do it.

    Regards.
     
  3. seidaku

    seidaku Member

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    Thanks for all of the info- I had no idea about the background of trip in ToEE!

    Given the issues you mentioned, I'm elated that this part, at least, is possible. Thanks for the link!
     
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