ToEE encountered an error (?)

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  1. helcat_74

    helcat_74 Member

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    I can only play for ten minutes or so, then I get the -Microsoft encountered a problem with ToEE- or something to that effect.

    Whats the problem? Why does it keep shutting down?

    EDIT
    All it says is

    ToEEexe. has encountered a problem and needs to shut down.
     
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  2. Marceror

    Marceror Established Member

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    Probably a driver issue of some kind. Checking video drivers/settings probably isn't a bad place to start.

    You could also try reinstalling ToEE. Maybe the install has a problem.

    Lastly, check your game patches. Make sure you have atari patch 1, 2 and the Co8 fan patch.
     
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    This time I sent an error report and recieved a another pop up that gave a bit more info.

    Instructions "0x2II2ddba" referenced at "0x01f5b3d0" ... could not be "read"

    the ... is because i have already forgotten what it said in that part of the sentence.
     
  4. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

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    Your missing words "the memory" maybe?
     
  5. helcat_74

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    Yes, it just happened again.

    I have the fan patches, but could not get the link to moebius to work.
     
  6. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

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    This is nothing to do with the game (else I'd definitely have seen it on my gf's bare minimum spec PC) ... this is a system problem. Have you tried the fix I posted for you in Atari forums? ie checking drivers are up to date and then turning off all background applications.

    Edit: there isn't one fix for this problem but this thread for Half-Life may point you in the right direction... (BTW when I cured Half-Life of the problem on my PC, it was because of a dodgy memory module.) http://steampowered.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=56

    Edit: Moebius.dll just downloaded fine from the Co8 mirror given on Morpheus' Mods and Patches thread. 07.54 am GMT 2? April.
     
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  7. helcat_74

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    Yes, my drivers are up to date. Your assumptions (at the other site) are correct.

    I wonder if it has anything to do with my screen saver, it kicks in after a few minutes of inactivity, then 10 minutes later my monitor goes into sleep mode.

    I have not tried the suggestions from atari's site that you made. I will try them and get back to you.

    Thank you for the help (and paitence).
     
  8. helcat_74

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    ToEE Aplication Error

    Still no luck, this is driving me crazy.

    The only thing I can figure is I didn't have my antivirus protection turned off when I installed the drivers. They were up to date, but I d'l. them any way, and installed -because I thought there may have been a problem when I intrialy started trying to install ToEE.

    I was able to d'l the moebius patch, but even following your directions Zebedee, I never got the "this file already exsits, do you want to over write" type message. Since then I have uninstalled and reinstalled the Install Disc and Play Disc to my hard drive.

    I have spent all day on this, its driving me crazy!!!!!!!!
     
  9. Zebedee

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    Ok let's get moebius on first.

    You have a clean install, and patched according to the Morpheus Mods and Patches thread. Moebius needs to be unipped directly to the ToEE folder inside the Atari folder on your HD.

    Don't worry about overwrite messages for now. Just start up the game and see if you can loot a defeated monster. If you can, the patch should be installed ok.

    The memory error message is a PITA and you're going to have to try a few things because it can have so many causes (did you check the Half Life link out - it gives a lucid description of what is the root cause of this error but not what is triggering it sadly.)

    edit: just want to say, this error will crop up in a few more games if you are getting it in ToEE. It's a system problem on your end, so that's where the answer is going to be.
     
  10. helcat_74

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    So far it has never cropped up in NwN or my Saturday Night Speedway (both Atari games).

    As Soon as I get time to drop the moebius in, I'll let you know.

    Edit: As an after thought.
    I can actually loot the brigands, but not monsters. I'm guessing the moebius patch will change that.
     
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  11. Zebedee

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    Ok, I'll try to explain what is causing the read memory problem.

    Think of a tower block with an elevator. Now you use the elevator to go up and down all the time. But you never visit a certain floor (say the tenth). One day you visit the tenth floor and the lift door refuses to open.

    That's basically what's going on with your memory. It's not necessarily faulty memory (although it could be) but a certain program will try to use a specific part of your memory and your memory will freak out.

    Usually the problem will be in a specific memory module and if you swap them about or even just remove the faulty one for a specific program, everything will run fine.

    Usually the problem will occur if you are pushing your memory to its maximum and so there's more chance of hitting the dodgy patch of memory.

    The memory error has so many causes that it's a case of trying everything methodically.

    Basic checks are:

    Reducing background programs.

    Running a virus scan

    Running a memory scan

    Trying to take out a memory module and then running the program (repeat to see if you can locate the one causing the problem - don't do this if you haven't got a clue what you are about - you'll fry your motherboard and void any warranty).

    Increasing virtual memory/turning off paging file

    As I said, if you are getting this with ToEE, you will find you will get it with other much more memory intensive programs.
     
  12. helcat_74

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    Ok, I have the moebius patch installed now. This time I did get the window informing me that such and such file exsists, I clicked "Yes to all".

    I played the game for a bit, and got the same old message and it crashed.
     
  13. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

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    Ok, re-read my past couple of posts. Click on the link to the Half-Life site for some more ideas on fixing your main problem.

    Basically, this is hardware and not software issues (if it was software, we'd all know about it). Remote assisting with hardware is sucky.

    Edit: ToEE uses Bink doesn't it? Anyone know if the game will run with the Bink videos disabled? Can't test it for myself (is there an AVI folder which can be renamed and then allow the game to run? Erm, don't try this unless you know what you are doing-disclaimer thingy). Reason I'm asking is Bink doesn't clear from memory properly on occasions and might help sort this one out.

    edit: ok got friend to test it. might be worth a shot.
     
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  14. helcat_74

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    I updated my operating system, however... I have an AMD mainboard/processor but do not know wich one, and my warranty does not say, nor can I find the invoice from new egg.

    There are some other things mentioned at the half-life site that I have not tried yet.

    I will keep you posted, in the mean time I trust if you find out any thing new you will let me know.

    Thank you (again), Zebedee.
     
  15. Zebedee

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    Run a mem test for certain (IIRC mem86 is a good one) - if it's dodgy memory refund time. But it probably won't be, so if you know what you are doing try the game with one memory module at a time to try and isolate what is going on.

    Sorry I can't be more help, but this glitch isn't even recognised by Microsoft yet (at least not in XP).
     
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