Voicing the Voiceless

Discussion in 'General Modification' started by Gaear, Feb 13, 2006.

Remove all ads!
  1. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    10,999
    Likes Received:
    23
    Question: Who will speak for those with no voice?

    Answer: Lord Zorn, hopefully.


    There are tentative plans in the works to record dialogue for some current in-game NPCs who, despite having much to say, never manage to generate an audible decible level in doing so. Think Brother Smyth.

    Lord_Spike's buddy Lord Zorn is reportedly a fairly accomlished fellow at this sort of thing, and possesses the necessary gear to do high quality recordings.

    What we need, initially, is a list of NPCs that are currently silent. Please submit any likely candidates here, and try to stick with a sensible priority level. For example, I think a good set of criteria would be a) NPCs who have a lot of lines, followed by b) NPCs who are sought out by parties in the opening vignettes of each alignment.

    I don't know how adept Lord Zorn is at disgusing his voice, so there will probably be some limit to what can be done here, but this project is in its infancy anyway, so just throw out any ideas and suggestions and we'll see where we can take it from there.

    And no, that pirate leader on the random encounter River Road map is not our first priority! :anger:


    STATUS as of 07/01/2006

    Voice Sets in The Can: Gremag, Clarisse, Black Jay, Rannos Davl, Kenter Nevets, Kent, Valden, Frank, Barkinar, Deggum, Gnoll Leader, Falrinth, Jade Empress, Pishella, Kella

    Projected Voice Sets: Countess Tillahi, Sir Juffer, Tolub, Cavanaugh, Lord Viscount Wilfrick, Grud Squinteye, Preston Wertz, Madam Ophelia, Ogre Chief, Assassin

    Voice Sets on Order: Mona, Ah Fong, Brother Smyth, Seleucas, Grank
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Jul 3, 2006
  2. Cerulean the Blue

    Cerulean the Blue Blue Meanie Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2005
    Messages:
    1,962
    Likes Received:
    0
    "I am the Lorax. I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues.":poke:
     
  3. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,151
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah...anybody could voice that one...Arrrgh!:pirate:
     
  4. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    11,786
    Likes Received:
    35
    Well, I have a puffy shirt...

    May i twist this slightly and suggest (just for discussion) some of Allyx's new characters for Verbobonc? Or, characters that appear both there and in the original, if they are unvoiced (can Zorn do a strawberry-blonde beauty from the dungeons? :chick: ) That would help that mod have an integrated feel.

    Just an idea ;)
     
  5. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    10,999
    Likes Received:
    23
    Very good idea, Ted. Axl - do you have any contenders in Verbo-Mod who span both it and the original material?

    Also I'd like to make a nomination: Kenter Nevets. The guy's the friggin' town elder, after all. ;)

    As far as the vignettes go . . .

    Lawful Good: Valden the Wainwright (sp?) - not voiced, I don't think
    Lawful Neutral: Kenter Nevets (yay!) - not voiced
    Lawful Evil: Turuko - voiced (I hate that set though)
    Neutral Good: Terjon - voiced
    True Neutral: Jaroo - voiced
    Neutral Evil: Terjon - voiced
    Chaotic Good: Black Jay - not voiced
    Chaotic Neutral: "some local" (doesn't apply)
    Chaotic Evil: Rannos Davil - not voiced

    Watcha think?

    Edit: Spike, could you get some input from Zorn as to how many different voices he thinks he could realistically do? I think there are already cases where one voice actor has done a few different ones, like the guy who voices Burne (also does a PC voice set or two, I think), so this isn't unprecedented.
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2006
  6. darmagon

    darmagon stumbler in the dark

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2005
    Messages:
    295
    Likes Received:
    0
    Being very selfish here but sober Elmo doesn't quite work with the old dialogue. Sure he stands up straight and all but still he sounds drunk or stupid when he speaks....

    Darmagon
     
  7. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    10,999
    Likes Received:
    23
    Hmmm, I might be able to fix this by editing down his dialogue (removing "duhhhh"s and hiccups, etc.). Would you people prefer a non-staggering, plain-speaking Elmo or a non-staggering but still slurry-speeched Elmo?

    Of course we'd also have to change the on-screen text to match his audible statements.

    Another consideration in all of this is the fact that we're fattening up the DL size with each file we add, though mp3s aren't that large.
     
  8. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2004
    Messages:
    4,628
    Likes Received:
    123
    Yeah, I have a few candidates...

    1) Jenna (from the temple)
    2) Tinafer (renamed* from the temple)
    3) Gleem, Chanda and Nybble (from the moathaouse)
    4) Darlia (new character)
    5) Lord Viscount Wilfrick
    6,7 & 8) the shopmap traders ;)
    9) the Innkeeper
    10) the travel agent (actually if Brad can give me my worldmap button I can delete him from Verbobonc)

    *Tinafer was renamed for Verbobonc - I didn't see the need to keep the name for a bit part character when I can expand her role in the game (and keep it in line with additional info I found about the area), she still doesn't say much, but she does has a new quest.
     
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2006
  9. darmagon

    darmagon stumbler in the dark

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2005
    Messages:
    295
    Likes Received:
    0
    Okay, I was only being sort of serious about the Elmo stuff. As I said, it is a selfish thing and anyway, most people who had an Elmo problem, had a problem with the swaying. Sure, I would like to see him talk straight as well but I don't think it should be made a huge priority, given other, more worthy voice projects.

    Darmagon
     
  10. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,151
    Likes Received:
    0
    Is Kella voiced? I'm thinking some bass added to Lady Zorn's voice with the the effects for the one form; normal for the other & you've got her done. BTW, she does an incredible "moaning Myrtle" impersonation on his system. It'd even fool Harry.
     
  11. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    10,999
    Likes Received:
    23
    I can provide modulation of sound files that would effectively change the pitch and register of anyone's voice. It would work for making someone sound like a giant or a demon (or SATAN!), but not for just making them sound like some other person. So I could do something to make Lady Zorn sound like a female druid masquerading as a female giant.
     
  12. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    11,786
    Likes Received:
    35
    Ooooo could she do Moaning Myrtle for the dialogue of ummm Clarisse in DH? That'd be ironically ironic.

    Also, Turuko has some gaps as well as an annoying voice, but personally I find it suits him to a 'T' (goes with the obnoxious picture / demeanor etc). Imho.

    Otherwise, Black Jay and Rannos / Gremag sound like a good call. Spike, think u can do a crusty ol' Black Jay? ;) "Git off my land, varmints!"
     
  13. Zorn

    Zorn Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    0
    I believe what you need is example recordings to get your hand wringing started. I think we could get Lady Zorn to do Myrtle for you guys and post an example on the forum. Its disturbing.

    I'll get with Lord Spike and get his pirate voice going with a lil' Bushmills Irish and I may get a copy so good you could smell it.

    Now I am working pretty hard on a huge Graduate School project this week but we should have time VERY shortly to get some interesting stuff. Now, is there any official dialog wanted...is there a script for exposition? Or do you want me to get creative because you want to feel that next step before you plant your foot upon it?
     
  14. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    10,999
    Likes Received:
    23
    Thanks for weighing in, Zorn.

    How about we do this, to start:

    1. Get a sample of Lady Zorn doing Moaning Myrtle.
    2. Get a sample of you doing Black Jay. Black Jay is one of two characters that have been mentioned twice in this thread, so if that's not a forum-wide 'edict,' I don't know what is. ;)

    Re: Black Jay, I don't know if you're familiar with these characters or not, but Lord_Spike could certainly fill you in as to the chips on their respective shoulders. Black Jay is an angst-filled guy. (Notice they don't call him 'Happy Yellow Jay.') In his case, as with most others, the dialogue lines already exist in text form in the game, so they would need to be reproduced verbatim. Maybe you could do a third sample where you improvise just to show us what you can do. As far as the specific dialogue for Black Jay, I can post it here later this evening if no one can retrieve a line or two before then. I agree we should start small just to test the waters.

    Thanks for your input and your services! :dance:

    Gaear

    Edit: Technical question - would you be recording this audio to analog tape, digital raw data, Windows PCM Wave, MP3, or what specifically? I ask as I will likely be the final-stage mixdown engineer in this process.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2006
  15. Zorn

    Zorn Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Messages:
    72
    Likes Received:
    0
    Edit: Technical question - would you be recording this audio to analog tape, digital raw data, Windows PCM Wave, MP3, or what specifically? I ask as I will likely be the final-stage mixdown engineer in this process.

    I got everything except reel to reel. I could even make you an 8track! I just got a dual layer DVD burner set up so the sky is the limit.

    I'll prolly do .wav so I can x-feed that to other formats.
     
Our Host!