Ted's mod is HERE

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  1. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    O and Cerulean, the scroll is mobbed in, try clearing your cache again.

    [Edit: gotta say Clarisse is probably my favourite part of the mod, shame I had to stick her in the corner, not enough room in the main room once you put an 8 person party in there, or else she would have been standing in the middle of the party. Spooky, but also easily overlooked!]
     
  2. Cerulean the Blue

    Cerulean the Blue Blue Meanie Veteran

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    I used the work around for the custom music, but I also upgrade to TOEEFE v3.0a as soon as I saw it was available. My problem with the bless scroll probably has nothing to do with TOEEFE and all to do with my installation. Now, if somebody would point me to the file that changes Calmerts store inventory, maybe I could figure out what's up.
     
  3. Cerulean the Blue

    Cerulean the Blue Blue Meanie Veteran

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    Shiningted, I have Front End set to clean the cache automaticly on startup, but I cleaned it manually anyway and still no scroll. Of course, I have already used the console to get one and finish that quest anyway. Does he stop selling them after you finish the quest?
     
  4. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    I doubt it... I mobbed a Bless scroll into his inventory (in place of one of the 'cure minor wounds' or something). Dunnno why it didn't work for u, certainly worked on all the runthroughs I did.

    I wonder if constantly clearing the inventory is an issue... shuoldn't think so but I will check when I get it going.

    For everyone else, Patch 1.0.1 is here! Its back in the first post. As well as the current stuff, it has Darmagon's new spells properly implemented, including the Ranger and Paladin ones (did I just say that?). Go for it! :)

    O and Cerulean, if you had to console in a scroll, thats kewl :) As for the problem, there should be a file G_BD394990_4D3E_490D_85BF_1CF3C84DFC49.mob in the folder Atari\Temple of Elemental Evil\modules\ToEE\maps\Map-5-Main-Floor. If its not there, thats your problem. If it is there, I don't know whats going on :dizzy:
     
  5. Agetian

    Agetian Attorney General Administrator

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    I tried analyzing the MOB file for the scroll with ToEEWB, looks fine by itself, BUT(!) it has a parent container listed as:

    G_DB46BABB_C40B_....

    AND the updated container file is *not provided*! That's what is causing the problem. The original container file that contains a link to your scroll MOB file must also be provided in order for things to work...

    The way MOBs work is - BOTH the container file AND the item file have mutual references, and thus both of them must be provided for the item to work correctly.

    I hope that the above is understandable.
    - Agetian
     
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  6. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    But its a variant of a .mob already in Calmert's container? I just changed the proto number to a different scroll. The container should be the same (that DOES explain why i failed when I tried to just add an extra one, modding a .mob from a container with more items - I at least knew to get one with the same slot number as I wanted to use)

    [Edit: thanks for looking into it btw! I just downloaded FrontEnd 3.0a, off to play with it]
     
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  7. Cujo

    Cujo Mad Hatter Veteran

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    In relation to not getting the greatsword at start up etc, it was the Co8 patch 3.whatever when I first encountered this and livs mod fixed it. my two cents.
     
  8. Old Book

    Old Book Established Member

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    Minor spoiler question:

    Is Cujo's stuff for sale somewhere in the mod, or on the bodies of enemies? Or does it still have to be consoled in?
     
  9. Agetian

    Agetian Attorney General Administrator

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    Well, OK. :)
    Anyway, just remember that there's no more need to fiddle with MOBs that often using a good old hex editor since ToEEWB can do it all (including forward- and back-referencing of container objects) for you in no time! ;)

    - Agetian
     
  10. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

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    I wouldn't worry too much about that Shiningted, I had to uninstall and reinstall the game about 8 times to get frontend 3 and ToEEWB to work, the maps I did got lost in the process - so I need to do the whole thing again anyway.
     
  11. Agetian

    Agetian Attorney General Administrator

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    When was this? Are you speaking about the betas or about stable releases? I have never heard about any error/bug/problem reports related to ToEEWB from you recently (let's say since the toeewb public beta 1 / toeefe 3.0 closed beta time), so I'm wondering if you're referring to the "good old beta times" or you are speaking about later stable releases. I'm afraid that your post above is slightly misleading for newcomers and may discredit the tools in their eyes. If you don't have a specific reason to say the above words about the latest stable releases, don't do so, if you *do* have a lot of troubles installing ToEEWB/ToEEFE right now, please report it as a bug or a problem or whatever, OK?
    - Agetian
     
  12. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

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    Nah it's an old problem with the world builder that has long been resolved, I was refering to the map numbers - ted and I used the same one! but I need to do mine all again anyway. Agetian if I do find a new problem, rest assured you'll be the first to know.
     
  13. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    Funny you should ask that. Certainly one thing he did for me is on an enemy (a shield), as is his gladiator armour.

    However, thanks to Agetian's glorious ToEEWB I can add a shopkeeper very easily, even as discussed above, and that is my very next task (as soon as the bugs are sorted out). However, the really powerful stuff - Hatori Thingy's Katana, the Cahoem Sword and the Smith and Westrealm shooter - I hope to introduce through encounters triggered to occur later in the game. That will have to wait til I fix bugs, make shop, upload Allyx's altered Estel voice (and get my voices in order), have a kwik hack at the 'NPCs vocalise / run off when close to death' issue and upload Cujo's current stuff as a seperate mod.

    Hmmm... that sounds like a lot. It shouldn't be. Coupla days :p

    Bug report btw - couple dialogue things I want to change (nothing you would notice, just things that differ between the male and female responses), and the weapon proficiency thing. That should be it. I did the 'just cast Bless on Clarisse' hack and it doesn't work becasue Bless only targets the party, can't be made to target NPCs. Maybe Prayer? We'll see. Maybe Prayer INSTEAD of Bless scroll and the cleric must be of St Cuthbert? That'll make life difficult! :transform Or maybe Prayer from cleric of St Cuthbert OR special 'blessing' scroll from Terjon who only does it after you find his thingy in Emridy Meadows? That way you can't just have a cleric of Hextor scribe a 'bless' scroll (if they can at all), it must be Cuthbertian consistent with the storyline. If so, will increase the CR of that little option of course.

    O and have to do an 'install for FrontEnd' thingy. Agetian will be happy to know I tried it, all looks straightforward, though I am going to do a fresh install tomorrow with it as a seperate module and see how it all goes.

    Cerulean - I started a new game through FrontEnd, bought a Bless scroll no worries. Still can't explain what happened with yours. Would you mind starting a new game, just one character if u like and run up to Calmert and see what he has for sale?
     
  14. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    Two other things:

    1) Cujo: Sorry but I don't follow what you said about the MWP issue. Are you saying up until Liv's mod (including Co8 3.x) this was a common problem, then she corrected it? If so I will trawl Liv's mod til I find what got changed, and fix it. Funny it is not in her changelog.

    2) Playful NPCs: No feedback yet on the extra dialogue stuff. Has anyone tried it, working ok? Sound alright, not too strained or 'patched together'? (Because of course, that is exactly what it is ;)).
     
  15. Old Book

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    Well, I liked the King Rat. Very funny stuff. :)

    Except that he kept refering to my party leader as female.

    Meleny's lost civilization / perky mountains speech is cute, and I like it, but I can see why it was cut when they were cleaning up the game.

    Good music choices, and I like the new dialog I've seen.
     
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