Spolier Questions: Livonya's Mod

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  1. Livonya

    Livonya Established Member

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    This thread should be for discussing spoliers involving my mod.

    It kind of bums me out when people post spoliers in the other threads.

    - Livonya
     
  2. Livonya

    Livonya Established Member

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    Rannos and Gremag

    This is what happens.

    1) They realize they are going to lose... so they say let's get out of here.

    2) On the NEXT round they drink invisibilty potions

    3) On the following round they dissapear

    If you kill them before they dissapear then they die. If you make them go prone (as you did) then they can't escape and they die.

    So this creates multiple possibilites.

    1) You kill them.

    2) They both escape.

    3) Rannos escapes but Gremag dies.

    4) Gremag escapes but Rannos dies.

    5) You never attack them.

    Depending on what happens different things will happen. Your game should develop as it develops. I did NOT want to force anything on you...

    I added a lot of changes that might or might not happen.

    Many of my sub-plot additions will be determined upon your actions which means more re-play options.

    With that explanation do you still think something went wrong?

    An error would have occured if one of them drank the invisibility potion and then didn't actually leave on the next round. Provided of course they were capable of leaving.... i.e. not prone or immobolized in such a way that they can't move...

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  3. Kalshane

    Kalshane Local Rules Geek

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    Okay, sounds like it worked like it should, then. Though the one that was still up drank a potion of heroism instead of invisibility. On the other hand, he was surrounded so there was no way for him to escape beyond the computer's odd ability to walk through areas your PCs can't sometimes. It was just weird to see the dialogue come up about them running away and then have them not run away, so I just wanted to make sure it was behaving properly.
     
  4. Livonya

    Livonya Established Member

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    The very first round he should drink a potion of heroism.

    That should be seperate from the escape.

    Just because he said he was going to escape doesn't mean he will succeed.

    It sounds like you stopped him and so his words were wasted on you since you kicked his ass.

    What Reputation did you end up with?

    Both of them were dead?

    - Livonya
     
  5. CucoGordo

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    I'm not good with names but the Fat one escaped me. Nice curveball with that and what happens later. You rock.
     
  6. Kalshane

    Kalshane Local Rules Geek

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    Yes, I killed both of them. Sounds like everything is working fine. (I wasn't complaining that they didn't escape. I was just making sure something hadn't gone wrong. Thanks.)

    ETA: I got the Purveyor of Swift Justice reputation.
     
  7. Livonya

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    Then it worked great!

    If one of them or both of them escapes then you get a totally different reputation.

    So that was perfect.

    I might need to speed up the process of their escape as perhaps I underestimated the speed at which folks would kill them.

    But otherwise it seems to be working as intended.

    Two rogues are pretty much cake for most parties.

    - Livonya
     
  8. Kalshane

    Kalshane Local Rules Geek

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    Okay. Cool. Good to know.
     
  9. SadExchange

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    Question about one quest.

    Excuse me about names, I'm at work, and wanted to ask about a couple quests.

    Lord Terjon asked me to talk to the leatherworker to convert, and so I went to talk to him, and he told me if I got Lord Terjon to heal his daughter, he'd convert, so I go to talk to Terjon and he has no new script, just to go and talk to Leatherworker about converting.

    Also, wiht Lord Terjon, trying to remember, Jaroo wanted me to ask him about converting someone, so I went to ask Terjon, he says no, go back to Jaroo, no new script either.
     
  10. Kalshane

    Kalshane Local Rules Geek

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    This is part of the normal game, not something Livonya has added. You have to find a way to Heal the leatherworker's brother yourself. What you need is in the church.
     
  11. Livonya

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    Sicne this is a spolier section I will give some other hints about things I have done...

    There are different sub-plots that will be triggered by the following conditions:

    1) Did Lareth escape/run away
    2) Did you kill Lareth
    3) Did Lareth join your party
    4) Did you kill Gremag/Rannos
    5) Did Rannos or Gremag escape
    6) Did you leave them alive
    7) Did you kill the Assassin
    8) Did the Assassin run away

    There are many new options available for evil parties. Several new quests and even something quite unusual that will most likely only be available to an evil party... though I could see it happening with some other parties as well...

    In all cases a lot of what happens will be dependent on your communication skills and your quriosity.

    Some things will unfold quickly while other things will unfold very slowly.

    - Livonya
     
  12. lord_graywolfe

    lord_graywolfe Wolfman

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    who is this assassin Liv? i dont remember every seeing one unless you mean the temple agent in the barn and he didnt do anything different than before. i confront him about sneaking around and he admits what he is and what the traders are then disappears.
     
  13. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

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    re. The assassin.

    Do not do anything to the two traders in Hommlet that would stop them buying from you. Sell them something from Lareth which has his name (I usually sell his boots). Go for a walk on World Map. An assassin should spawn. This worked before but Livonya has made the encounter much tastier :)
     
  14. lord_graywolfe

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    ahhhhhhh ok id always killed them off before going to the moathouse thats why i never saw him. cool thanks :)
     
  15. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

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    What he said, but as with other 'rewards', may take a fair while to show up. Or, for memory, it used to, the patch may have changed that.
     
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