Oversight Committee Vote

Me too! :chairshot :Being_a_s

 

I understand, the point is that people usually want
to finish the game in 100% to know/see what's in
it, now don't they? As you stated earlier, you want
to balance the game, not to make it easier. I agree
an adventure would be cool but if make new adventures
why not finish the ones that haven't been finished?
Like the caravan massacre or Rannos and Gremag
scenario pt. 2?

 

We have a paradoxical conundrum, a catch-22.

Locks people place on house doors, cars, chests, boxes, duffel bags, etc. are for helping honest people to remain honest. Locks are not for thieves. If a thief wants something that does not belong to him or her, it is stolen, taken and gone. Again, locks are for helping honest people to remain honest.

There should be one-single checkbox install option for all three of the MoatHouse ReSpawn + Verbobanc + Hickory Branch MODs ( re-bance thread ). If someone wants to install ToEE and play a so-called balanced game, those people will need to make sure the checkbox option does NOT have a checkmark in it. Otherwise, people can place a checkmark in it, install ToEE and play the game using the added content. Bottom line, let the people who download and install the Co8 6.0.0 MOD decide what MOD content they want in their ToEE game.

!!! RANT WARNING !!!
As a sad note to state, if it is mandated to have a balanced game with NO option to install the new modules content (made by Allyx + ShiningTed + me), then it is fair to say that all content and changes added to the original ToEE computer game makes the game unbalanced; only fixes to broken parts of the original computer game is balance; broken means things included in the original computer game do not work; any new added change or feature is unbalance--higher level spells and new gear and related added content should only be available in QotS or entire new modules made after QotS; and, in my opinion, it is hypocritical to mod things like being able to make level 20 or other stuff, have new gear and features like higher level spells for the original ToEE computer game version of the module, but not at least have an option to install the new module content made by modders at Co8. (All things like the locked security box on level 4 of the temple and Livonyas undead priest would have to be removed from the game to make a truly balanced game. And, that would not make for a fun game in my opinion.) Lastly, work-arounds for many things like excessive wealth can be fixed via clever scripts; we do have some very clever people who can script.

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If this whole balance question is handled wrong or poorly, the final result will have Orion79 belly laughing and rolling around on the floor having the last laugh. I for one still believe in allowing new content that is outside the box as far as original TSR modules are concerned. I would ask, or even plead the case, for Ax Thrower to be allowed to make a small new mini-module as suggested by ShiningTed. It could be considered part of a single checkbox install option of the Co8 6 MOD to add new module content to someone's install of their ToEE game, along with the new module content made by Allyx, ShiningTed, and I.

 

What if..?

Let's say the new module content is removed from the game (no checkbox install option) and means no more Desperate Housewives, Verbobanc, ReSpawned Moathouse, and Hickory Branch. And, current modders and new peops who want to be modders are not allowed to mod new things outside of what is in an original TSR module.

So, we end up with some good quality of original modules. What else will happen? People will continue to make mods outside of the box and share their work, but it will not be shared with people who only download Co8 MODs. There will probably be clicks of peops who make new content and do not share what they make with everyone, regardless of how good and fun it is, because they would not be allowed to do that here at Co8.org. The best thing at this current time is, at least, new mod content available for download at Co8 is attempted to be made D&D rules compliant.

 

One suggestion from the discussion we had months ago was to move everything to the end & call it "Tales of the Wild Coast." This would not include things which had to be where they were due to continuity of the plot, like the orcs pre-spawning in the ogre cave, etc. But, the other things could go there, as an add-on of new content at the end. Desperately trying not to offend anyone, here, I could even imagine DH going there as well, and being the inspiration of the whole continuing story line. But, I don't know what kind of effort all this would take on the part of people doing the actual work, so there it is. I'm for the simpler fixes of experience fiddling & cash draining through price fixing. Let the rest of it be, except for whatever bugs & little annoyances rear their ugly heads. Perhaps later, we'll see more in depth things that can be done - but for now, let's not do a whole lot of re-inventing; just fixing what we've all worked long & hard to add.

 

hmm - Ya'know Spike, that would allow my very aged monsterous undead spellslinger (the one that gets mad and very upset when it has to kill another party for disturbing it) to be included in Hickory Branch. I like that. It would be lots of re-modding though to move everything to the end game, not just my MOD but also the other big MODs. That would be an acceptable alternative to the similar large modding effort to cut the big mods to an install option. Plus, I just had a flood of killer new ideas for a re-mod of Hickory Branch to be at the end-game.

 

Allyx offered to work on it (and me, as well - here, am offering to help).

 

I will get the map files from Ax Thrower...consider it done and the very aged monsterous undead spellslinger already moved in to his new home and all happy.

 

Has somebody tabboo'd the word ****, or am I just imagining things?

 

heh - You're just imaging things, ShadowDragon. *grin* Only a few people are actually aware of its presence and awaiting inclusion in a mod. It was originally intended for inclusion at Hickory Branch, but it is way too powerful and should be in a MOD after ToEE in a module like QotS. I was avoiding saying its name directly to help keep it a semi-mystery until it is revealed when people would be forced to deal with the reality and fear of it killing their party.

 

@Ax Thrower: Please check your Co8 PM mail. Thnx