Once and For All, Solving NPC Hostile on Leave

Dear Co8,
I keep having my NPC's go hostile on my when I tell them to leave my party and before it was when I accidently attacked one sometime, somehow and had to respawn the character but prevented it from happening again by being real careful but now they all are hostile when they leave. I believe this may be due to me casting "Break Enchantment" on them some time back to recover them from Gorgon petrification and it being taken as a hostile spell (it's not hostile!!). Unfortunately I don't have a save before then.

My question is, aside from killing and respawning the characters (and messing up the game esp with Thrommel by doing so) or trying to make them leave somewhere else (some will only leave certain places and thus remain hostile forever after), or removing the Butcher of Homlett reputation when you don't even have it and thus doesn't work, is there no way to change the flag back from hostile to friendly for that/those npcs like via a simple hex edit?

This is obviously a very common issue that many people have had and caused may restarts or slow downs as they seek solutions. Please give us a solution that will work regardless, like a hex edit.:help:

 

Doing it in real time, like right when they disband, is possible via the console if you know what you are doing. Adding a san_disband script to each recruit-able NPC that adjusts there reaction to the party would be very easy. I already have such a script. If you would like to make me a list of all the recruit-able NPCs I could make it happen.

 

I've never seen the hostile npc thing, but I have a party of 8 with Meleny and the male pc she "married" is gone. I wanted to drop her off to go rescue the prince but I don't get the dialouge. I tried pc.follower_remove (npc) and it didn't work. Strange.

 

UPDATE, ADDED PROTO NUMBERS. UPDATED LIST.

Ashrem: 14257
Bertram: 14120
Burne: 14004
Cavanaugh: 14061
Cavanaugh (The Begger): 14288
Darley: 14268
Darley (in real form): 14421
Ed: 14209
Ed (the other one): 14210
Elmo: 14013
Fruella: 14037
Furnok: 14025
Hruda: 14122
Jaer: 14269
Kella: 14236
Kobort: 14028
Lareth: 14060
Meleny: 14035
Morgan: 14196
Mother Screng: 14121
Oohlgrist: 14195
Otis: 14149
Paida: 14222
Pintark: 14207
Raimol: 14062
Rufus: 14006
Sargen: 14271
Scorpp: 14272
Serena: 14410
Spugnoir: 14038
Taki: 14270
Ted: 14208
Thrommel: 14234
Tuelk: 14206
Turuko: 14041
Wicked: 14205
Wonnilon: 14200
Zaxis: 14639
Zert: 14045

Thanks to GAEAR for reminder of other Bertram and the following:
Frederic (Bertram): 14411
Riana: 14114
Pishella: 20203 (I end up spawning doors)
Ronald Rinwratth: Could anyone tell me proto number for him?

I believe that's it... if I anyone knows someone I missed please post.
(of course, if storyline wise they need to go hostile then they should, so script should be before any storyline script I think).

 

I highly doubt that as over the past two years I've fresh installed it countless times from 3 different disc versions, restarted perhaps 4 times, kept save games for a year going back to previous saves many times, formatted my set 4 times, restored about 3 of those times the save games from my external backup drive (where you restore Co8 and ToEE module folders from backup folder). No matter which system, which version, this problem eventually occured in various forms once an NPC is asked to leave the party, but of course not always. It always is the result of one of the following.

Either
1. Because you hit them accidentally sometime ages ago, especially with AOE spell. (Elmo 1st NPC to go hostile with me for this)

2. PC/NPCs were charmed and hit the NPC in question while under influence of Charm/Dominate/Command/Suggestion/Confusion etc.

3. A beneficial buff was considered a hostile spell, unbeknowest to you till you test or upon asking them to leave. Rare, but always happens with Break Enchantment.

This is true under all patches I've played (full format between them) whether Atari Patch 1, Atari Patch 2, Atari Patch 3, or in last year or so, Atart Patch 1+2 + Co8 Patch most recent version up to 4 (have not used 5 alpha version).

But I could be wrong, I frequently am and that's how I learn. So if this is simply a bad install that can be fixed and thus continue on my way with my saved game I would be most merry and glad! Show me the solution. I've done all of the ones mentioned in first post at one point or another to fix and met their limitations as to when they work and when they don't.

It's a stupid bug, if something offends a good NPC enough to kill you they should leave the party immediately, not be all hunky dory and happy and adventure with you until one day your Paladin says thanks bro, take care and the NPC/Elmo smashs his axe in your face and as you slump and your bloodied vision sees him towering over you, he bends over and whispers in your ear "Remember Ally's burning hands that nicked me?... I do". Scruch-Splat...splat...splat. Game Over screen.

 

Krunch, this is an old, old problem reported too many times to count. It has been going on since the game was released. It is not an install problem.

Wiz, what exactly did you try? It should have looked like this:

Code:

game.party[0].follower_remove(8015)

though the "8015" might need to be "14035".

I'll get on implementing that script as time allows, though if somebody would look up the proto numbers for me, it would save some time.

 

Hey Cerulean the Blue,
Just in case it was overlooked I've edited a post further up, a day or two ago, to include the protos numbers. Check it out.

 

Thanks MG. Just so you know, all the NPCs in the game are in the 14000s proto number wise. The 20000s are for descriptions only, and have no real proto entries. So the ones you list in the 20000s are not the actual proto ID numbers of those NPCs. I can figure them out though.

 

MG if you use a 20000 number, you will get doors, The door is used as a placeholder. Troika used to keep the game from CTDing if you typed in a number that does not have a prototype attached to it.

 

Wow, no I didn't realize, thanks for letting me know... I was wondering why I was spawning doors... Anyway, I've edited the post above again and all are fixed except Pishella and Ronald Rinwratth... for some reason I can't find the real versions of those.

 

Pishella is listed as Burne's Apprentice, and Ronald is in 5.0.0 only.

I've completed the mod, but for 5.0.0 only. It would take far too much work to make it available for 4.0.0 or 4.0.1. There are just to many changes too sort through.

 

No prob. That's Awesome Cerulean!
Thanks a billion! Well I can't wait for the official launch of 5.0.0 to use with my save game. Finally can have my NPCs, esp Thrommel, not attack (and avoid killing Thrommel messup). Thanks again, Cerulean, your service to the whole TOEE community is exemplary! I'm most grateful!

 

Oh, didn't you know? Old saved games are not compatible with 5.0.0.

 

Yeah, I'm aware they're not at the moment, but I'm just assuming that since once 4.0 came out I could use it with my old saved games I can do the same when the final version of 5.0 is released