CTD after Nulb Ambush

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  1. ayoshi

    ayoshi Member

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    Hello!

    Im back playing again after a long time, since NC 6.0

    Everything seems to run fine at first. CTD problems I just restart the game then
    its ok.

    BUT this problem, after im done with the Nulb Ambush at the house sold by old man,
    (pretty much every enemy is dead)

    I tried to exit the house, it CTD! why?

    I have 7 PC and 1 NPC - Spoignoir (excuses the spelling of his name)

    Is there any solution/issue to this CTD event?

    many thanks! :)
     
  2. sirchet

    sirchet Force for Goodness Moderator Supporter

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    Can you try the same encounter with a different save?
     
  3. ayoshi

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    Hello,

    I tried, but seems, after the battle when i exit, it still CTD.

    Now i tried to leave it first. I just went to the temple and get quest from Romag
    until 2nd quest. (Where you will send a letter to Rentsh)

    When i try to go to Nulb, it CTD. thats worst now..

    Anything I could still do? :roll:
     
  4. sirchet

    sirchet Force for Goodness Moderator Supporter

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    It seems that the Nulb map may be corrupted, I would recommend a re-activation of the module.

    And then attempting to enter Nulb as a test.

    Many problems can be solved with a re-activation.
     
  5. ayoshi

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    I just re-activated the NC 8.0

    Tried to exit after ambush at nulb house - still CTD
    Tried to goto Nulb after quest from Romag - still CTD

    On thing did work, though, I charmed one of the brigands and the leader,
    after the ambush, i exited the house, no CTD :thumbsup:

    What could be the cause?

    Also, after the re-activation, i found a weird item on my ranger
    It has an image of letter 'T" and says 'Door'
    i just dropped it, but the CTD after ambush still persistent

    thanks!
     
  6. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    That would probably explain it. Somehow you got a door into your inventory, which is not an inventory item. Were you playing with giving yourself items via the console?
     
  7. ayoshi

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    hmmm...thats weird, yes, i was trying to get some items before....
    but the door didnt exist before.

    does the bug stay after you drop the item door?

    The door only showed up after i re-activated the mod nc 8.0.0

    :roll:
     
  8. ayoshi

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    I re-installed the add-ons(NC 8.0.1), and found out the 'door' item was actually the Temple of Elemental Evil map. Dropping the map was still incurs CTD after i leave the house.

    So technically, I didnt had any items from console that are not supposed to be there...

    any other thoughts?

    Also, i did change the status of a quest to 'Finished', just once, Would that lead to CTD?
     
  9. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    Did you switch back to 8.0.0 from 8.0.1 or something? There should be no reason the game would forget what the map was with all files current.

    Anyway it's possible that even with the right protos.tab reinstalled, the save is still confused about that proto (being as at one point it didn't know what it was), hence resulting in continued CTDs.

    Do you actually know you didn't input any other bad protos? If you give yourself a number that doesn't exist, no icon will show up in your inventory necessarily, but the game will still try to find that proto, fail, and crash.

    Consoling a quest state shouldn't cause any crashes.
     
  10. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    Odd. Can you post the save?
     
  11. ayoshi

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    Hello,

    Ok, As what Sirchet sugguested, I re-activated my NC 8.0.0

    Then i run the game - found out that theres a 'T' Door on my ranger inventory.

    after some few tests, of CTD, i then activated the NC 8.0.1 add ons

    Then i can see that the 'door' icon, was actually the ToEE MAp!

    whew...

    I attached a file of the 'corrupt' data. See what can you get from there!

    thanks! :thumbsup:
     

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  12. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    Ok, the good news is that apparently I have managed to reform your save to some extent.

    Full story:
    - I teleported the party to another location, where it didn't crash
    - Dumped the map there
    - Perhaps related - noticed graphical glitches in Hommlet (e.g. the Welcome Wench signpost was replaced by the Select All icon from the UI...) - evidence of some sort of corruption
    - Saving/loading/alt-tabbing seems to have repaired the above (hopefully)
    - I was then able to travel back to Nulb without a crash

    The bad news is that apparently returning to Nulb can cause it to crash again (even without the map). Other than the inconvenience of not returning to Nulb, it's also not a good sign (looks like a sort of game corruption). I'll post the save here, but you should consider re-starting.

    BTW, out of curiosity - are you aware of the various Figures' functionality? And the extraplanar chest?
     

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  13. ayoshi

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    Thats both goods new and bad news!

    Thanks for looking at my save file.

    Also another save, which i believe is corrupted too, I tried to charm 2 enemies at the house, when i exit the house, it didnt CTD...i killed the 2 and went to the house again to
    rest, then no more CTD when i exited. (after this CTD issue at the house, everything goes smoothly, until i got this quest from Romag, then when entering Nulb, CTD! whew..)

    About the figurine, is it about the lamia thing or the fungi?

    Im not sure about it, but i read something about the fungi figurine but missed it, and
    forgot what can it do to the game (or at a certain area)

    For the extraplanar chest, way back in NC 6.0 i used it alot, but since then, my game
    always crashes, i prefer not to use them anymore on NC 8.0 (unless of course it doesnt
    cause anymore game crashes/bugs)

    One thing I have not told you bout guys, is that I also used the console to level up and give Xp. (Since i want the wizard to gain more xp to craft items)
    Does this cause some CTD too? I think i entered a wrong value for xp at some point
    (ok, no such thing as wrong value since its only numbers, maybe wrong format of command at the console)

    Guess im gonna have to make a new game...:thumbsup:
     
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