Bodaks in the Moathouse

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  1. Firesprung

    Firesprung Member

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    Folks,

    First, love the Co8 5 mod. So much fun! Back playing the game again a second time through and enjoying every moment of it!

    Well, I'm dropping a post on you requesting some help with the Bodaks in the moathouse who, along with the other more sinister inhabitants, have replaced Lareth and his crew. I'm an old PnP Greyhawk guy from way back, but never encountered a Bodak. I vaguely remember their section in the old Feind Folio (?) but cannot for the life of me remember a weakness or a "work around" I might employ to avoid the gaze of death. I've blinded them with Glitterdust, but blindness does not appear to affect this save vs death stare the Bodak employs as an attack.

    Thoughts? Advice?

    Thanks in advance.

    Firesprung
     
  2. smg225

    smg225 Gyro Captain

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    The easiest answer is the cleric spell "death ward" which protects against instant-death sorts of magics.
     
  3. Firesprung

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    What level spell is deathward? Can it be cast on the party (which would seem rather powerful!)
     
  4. Templar

    Templar Established Member

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    I've always loved the spell Deathward, very useful in Bg2 and icewind dale in the later areas of the game.

    I didn't find it as useful in TOEE because not as many mages, but now it seems the mages are a lot smarter and tougher and there seems to be a few more. I'm hoping spells like this will become more useful.
     
  5. smg225

    smg225 Gyro Captain

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    4th level cleric & paladin, 5th level druid, one cast = one person protected. So go with scrolls, or just send your one warded char. in to dispatch the bodak.
     
  6. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

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    Bodaks are vulnerable to cold damage but immune to most other types of damage, cone of cold usually does the trick for me.
     
  7. wizgeorge

    wizgeorge Prophet of Wizardy

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    A cleric with Sun domain and GreaterTurning can destroy it if it fails the save.
     
  8. Firesprung

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    Great stuff, folks. I do appreciate it!
     
  9. Yavathol

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    I think I've tried Death Ward, and it didn't work. If this is the case, it should probably be logged as a bug. Anyone else seen this?
    :goth: :hehe
     
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    Ice storm is good, and also damages the other monsters in that encounter like the witch. A web followed by a couple of good ice storms cleans that room nicely.
     
  11. Baldrick

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    Try Pg 19 MMII - Very rare. Seldom utilises a weapon, although it is 90% probable that a bodak will have one.

    The gaze of a bodak, when met, causes death unless a Save V Death Magic is made.

    Bodaks can only be struck by +1 or better magic weapons or cold-wrought iron ones.

    They are immune to spells sucj as Charm, hold, sleep, slow

    They are otherwise affected as demons are with respect to various attack forms, although poison does them no harm.

    Direct sunlight inflicts 1 point of damage per round. :chainsaw:

    In view of this, I am not looking forward to getting there yet! :Crazy_Tig
     
  12. xSunchaserx

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    I have always thought of Bodaks as more related to undead creatures. If so, why are they more vulnerable to cold damage and not fire damage?
     
  13. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

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    They are demonic forms of humans who ventured into areas of the Abyss where they did not belong. They are not more susceptible to cold damage; rather, weapons forged of iron which is wrought "cold". There is a huge difference.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_iron
     
  14. sirchet

    sirchet Force for Goodness Moderator Supporter

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    Bodaks are undead....
    A bodak is always chaotic evil. It is said that humanoids who die in some of the most evil places of the Abyss return as bodaks.
     

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  15. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

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    More Bodak Lore:

    http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/monsters/BODAK.html

    I still didn't realize the newest rules set has them as undead; nevertheless, it is their demonic origin that appears to govern, rather than their state of unlife. In the rules that I know best, they were merely transformed, not dead or undead. Perhaps this is what happens to those lost in places like the demonweb, especially if they die there as a result of their misfortune?
     
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