Forum overhaul?

Discussion in 'Site and Forum Feedback' started by Zebedee, Aug 2, 2006.

Remove all ads!
  1. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2005
    Messages:
    1,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    To open up a can of worms...

    I'm looking at the forums at the moment and I'm inclined to agree with new visitors who say that they find them bewildering. Information is scattered in different forums which generates a lot of 'help' issues.

    Could I suggest the following reorganisation:


    Community
    containing News, Announcements, General Discussion

    ToEE
    containing General discussion, Help desk, bug reports, Installation guide(locked forum)

    ToEE modding
    containing general modding, toolset documentation, maps/textures, models/animations, downloads, testing

    KotB
    containing the private and public forums

    Troika's Other Games
    containing Vampire, Arcanum and Unannounced Title

    Negative plane
    containing Negative plane

    ------------------

    The 'Community' forums can be kept as they are. But perhaps announcements of mod releases should be linked to the installation forum instead of the files themselves.

    ToEE general discussion can be tidied up by removing most of the stickied posts to downloads, or to either help or bugreporting.

    ToEE help desk should be just for that. Got a problem then post there. If it's an unknown bug which relates specifically to a particular mod, a moderator can shift it over to bug reporting.

    ToEE bug reporting should have a thread for each mod to report bugs. It also should be open to more general bug reporting. A collation of known bugs and whether they are being fixed/ can be fixed might also be helpful.

    Installation guide (locked forum) should be kept as up to date as possible. Each step should be in its own post with pictures for the hard of understanding. Individual mods can have their own thread with full and detailed installation notes.

    ToEE modding can be tidied up a little bit more. For ease of use, perhaps a specific testing sub-forum would help out so that people can test while they play. Something like cumulative fixes could go there while in compilation, while the fully compiled version would be cited by the installation guide.


    Negative plane is where to put the junk or downright silly posts. Or even just posts which have no relevance after a certain time period. That way they can still be found for posterity.


    ------------------


    Any thoughts?
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2006
  2. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2004
    Messages:
    5,001
    Likes Received:
    250
    Sounds like a good plan to me Zeb. One thing though, as the "Unnannounced title" never actually came about, and that Troika are no more, perhaps that should be moved to the Negative energy plane?
     
  3. Hazelnut

    Hazelnut Great Confusor

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2006
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    As a newcomer, I say it's a very good idea. It's not too hard to find stuff after a while, once you learn your way around, but it could be easier.

    The only comment I have for you Zeb, is where would the released co8 (and others?) mods be put?
     
  4. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2005
    Messages:
    1,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Released mods for general consumption would be linked to via installation section.

    All mods would go into downloads, each in their own individual thread. That way modders or those who know what they are doing can locate them. Most mods are obselete (eg incorporated already or have long outdated files) and could do with putting in a nice out of the way place where the average user won't automatically click and download them. Click and downloady stuff will be in the installation section.
     
  5. rufnredde

    rufnredde Established Member Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2006
    Messages:
    266
    Likes Received:
    1
    If you can pull this off, I am in with whatever help I can offer.
     
  6. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2005
    Messages:
    1,755
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for the responses guys.

    I think we need an admin to comment on whether these are good ideas or not. Some more input from the regulars might be useful too :)
     
  7. Cerulean the Blue

    Cerulean the Blue Blue Meanie Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2005
    Messages:
    1,962
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm all for it, though it would take someone with admin status to pull it off. I'm not sure the current admins have the time. Perhaps we could get you (Zeb) admin status and have you do it. ;)
     
  8. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2004
    Messages:
    12,651
    Likes Received:
    350
    I'd back this: sometimes I go loking for stuff and even I can't find it :blink:
     
  9. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    11,029
    Likes Received:
    42
    For the record, I believe Negative Energy Plane is where Sol put all the threads from before we moved to our current host way back when. It's not really a garbage dump (in fact, it's a source of a great deal of useful information), although having one would be useful.
     
  10. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,151
    Likes Received:
    1
    Count me as a supporter, too.

    Edit: Not trying to dredge more into this than it 'd be worth, but what about restricting access to some areas? A lot of folks poke about asking questions in the modding forums where the questions don't belong. I know a simpler solution is more active moderating, but the mod-erators are the mod-ifiers in many cases. They are already set upon with many tasks. Just a thought.
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2006
  11. krunch

    krunch moving on in life

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2005
    Messages:
    3,280
    Likes Received:
    0
    It sounds good to me.
     
  12. emptybook

    emptybook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2005
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    I support the re-organisation, but I would oppose any restrictions to the modding areas.

    The proposed changes include a 'help desk' and restricting access to the modding forums would discourage any inquisitive wanderers from taking their first baby steps into modding. They would have to prove themselves as a modder to a moderator before even seeing what modding this game entails.
     
  13. Morpheus

    Morpheus Mindflayer Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2003
    Messages:
    539
    Likes Received:
    1
    I also think the modding section should remain open to anyone, let's not be too "elitist".

    Sol Invictus owns the site, I guess any major overhaul of the forum structure should get his approval first.
     
  14. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2004
    Messages:
    11,029
    Likes Received:
    42
  15. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,151
    Likes Received:
    1
    No one was going for that particular sentiment. I felt it was worth mentioning due to all the confusion, which is why I believe the restructuring idea was even brought up to begin with. I see the merit in everything being completely open, but would like for there to be more active controls to keep down the chaos. It was, as I said...

     
Our Host!