At first I thought this was sort of funny and unfortunate, but after reading (looking at) the article, I suddenly sympathised with the bank. http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-06-01/news/is-this-woman-too-hot-to-work-in-a-bank/1 My favorite quote: Judge for yourself. I predict that she'll win her suit, and cash in on her fifteen minutes with Playboy or something like that.
She's not wearing a bra. She's going out of her way to draw men's attention. I bet she sits underneath an air conditioner all day long too. She's trying to climb the corporate ladder with her sweater cows. It seems she has succeeded because I agree with Gaear. She'll be a centerfold before too long. I'll have to buy that issue so I can read the article. And what's wrong with bank's managers? They go out of their way to make a stink about her? Why don't they just sit back and enjoy the free view? If I was a bank manager with an office, I'd promote her to administrative executive secretary for me. No one else would ever see her and it would never be a problem again! Also, the article says she's married. There ain't no ring in any of the pictures. I bet she takes off her ring before she goes to work to increase her chances for a promotion. And invites to bank conventions in Aruba and the Grand Caymens. Ya, I think I know what's going on here. There's quite many names for her profession but I don't think banker is one of them.
If she isn't wearing a bra, then either the top has a built in shelf bra or she's had plastic surgery and they aren't real. As far as the rest of it, I'm not even venturing there. Too hot to handle. Pun intended.
Hi Forgive me for butting in, but I have seen bank tellers dressed more "revealing" than any of the photos in the article. At least we now know what "Troubled Assets" at Citibank needed relief under the TARP. Personally I have absolutely no sympathy for the bank at all. If the "men" (and I'm being generous by using that word) running Citibank can't think with the head on their shoulders instead of the one below the belt, they should get into another line of business. For the record, Necro, not every woman who goes around braless is "on the make" or "working for promotion". In my last job, there was a young lady who didn't wear a bra most of the time, and she was most definitely not "on the make". You should be careful when you make statements like that, someone might think you hate beautiful women oke:. By the way there is another possible explanation for the look of the photograph: have you gents ever heard of a 20 year old program called "Photoshop" ? The Royal Canadian
Clapping for the Royal Canadian. Someone who isn't afraid to stand up and be counted. Takes off her hat...err crown...and curtsies.
The truth in these matters always lies somewhere in the middle. My guess is that the bank did experience some reduction in productivity due to her appearance (all the men following her around sniffing at her heels instead of working) and attempted to address that loss just as she asserts they did - but can you really blame them? It's probably a no-win situation for them and they should have just lived with it instead of terminating her, but I have little doubt that she was a distraction nonetheless. Also, I agree with TRC that there's no reason to assume she was 'on the make,' but while I don't believe she should be discriminanted against, I suspect that she was used to the attention and the affect she had on people, and liked it (what woman doesn't enjoy being desired and having that power?), so the hapless victim angle is a little hard to swallow. But hey, I don't begrudge her taking what she can. If I looked like that I'd use it to my advantage too. @TRC - I'm pretty adept with Photoshop and none of those images look fudged to me, which, if I'm right, means that she deliberately posed rather provacatively - and in front of Citibank no less (she might as well have been giving them the finger) - to leverage her mini-celebrity and promote herself via her looks. That's also fine by me, for what it's worth, but if she were really a hapless victim pleading her case I suspect she'd look dowdy and sad. Meh, good for her, she's also smart. @Necro - the article actually says she's single.
Fake boobs and push up bra. Maybe built in 'points'. I had a 45 year old lab assistant who's looks could knock this blow up doll in the ditch. She frequently worked within inches of me and she NEVER wore anything that didn't show she was all girl. Maybe like an older Sophia Loren. My job handling complicated, unrelated problems required a certain mental agility that also got used to get my mind back onto the task at hand. But she acted professionally, which enabled me to do my job. The way a women acts is usually more distracting than how she looks. And a picture doesn't show much of that. Good looking isn't as much of a distraction as bad acting.
Hmmm...she was married but apparently decided to remove the ring. Or perhaps she never had one. Makes sense, if you were trying to get attention from the fellas on the job. If she would've kept the ring on, it might have been somewhat of a deterrent to the guys, but rings really don't mean anything anymore, as far as that goes... "Lorenzana left the workplace to get married, but that relationship went sour after a brief time, and in September 2008, she was ready to go back to work. It was the height of the Wall Street crisis, but she lucked out. She got an interview with Citibank for a job at its recently opened branch in the Chrysler Building." I don't hate women, but I also don't treat them as anything special either. To me, they are the same as any other person, someone somewhere is sick and tired of putting up with their !@#$. I trust no one, man or woman. In this case, I would think she would wear bras, at least for the court pictures. Otherwise, she's just going to be seen as a !@#$%. I don't think she's a victim. I think she dresses the way she does because she wants the attention. If she didn't, she would dress differently. I've worked for nothing but the largest corporate companies for 20 years+ and if I've seen this once I've seen it millions of times. Hell, I used to "date" many office women back in my younger days. Most of the business women are narcissistic and use it to gain advantage but cry about it if it goes wrong for them. It would be a stretch to imagine that this one is any different. But, if she can take Citibank to the cleaners with a nuisance lawsuit, more power to her. They'll probably settle it out of court and give her $100,000 or so as opposed to publicly admitting that they shouldn't have fired her for dressing provocatively. Hell, she could do this with all of her future jobs. Maybe wear some frilly lace black bras under a white blouse. I wonder if I could do that? I'll start riding my bike to work wearing daisy dukes men's cut-offs and then switch to business casual for the office and walk around all day with the pants button unbuttoned but zipped up and wear my shirt with the top 2 or 3 buttons unbuttoned. And strap an eggplant to my inner thigh, lol.
If that's how you want to present yourself, I think you should go right ahead and do it. I'd love to wear a black frilly bra under a white blouse. Almost as good as no undies under a full chiffon skirt.
I have to make a comment. I hate bras. I absolutely hate them. They are the most uncomfortable contraptions I have ever worn. Worse by far than thongs, girdles, corsets, and all the other things that men seem to like so much. I am fairly well endowed, and as such, I tend to flop around rather than saucily bounce. Because I am acutely aware of the social conventions (even though I do not agree with them), I wear a bra when I have to be in the public 'eye' (so to speak). As soon as I no longer have that particular concern, I take the damn thing off. (Often when driving.) Where I currently work, I often go sans bra and no one cares. I have noticed that women who are less endowed often go w/o a bra and no one seems to mind that, either. Now, I have no idea whatsoever how a jock strap feels. Since it is made by men and for men, I suspect it is might be comfortable, but perhaps not. If it was, men would likely wear one all the time, and I have never noticed that to be the case. (Yes, I do look. And it has never interfered with my ability to get my job done. Not even when the pants are very very tight, and the side that 'it' lays is clearly discernible, with that cute rounded butt rising and falling.) My point is, why shouldn't a woman dress however she wants? I'd sure like to...I'd flop around all day if I didn't have to put up with all the weirdo looks. Try wearing a jock strap all day long. Maybe you'll see my point.
If the lady had real boobs and wore no bra, they would rest at the bottom of the rib cage, even when she was young. Bras were sort of optional in the '70's. There were several tops designed to accomodate that. Some of those required that the lady stay upright and not jump around too much or something delightful would happen. There was also constant readjustment, and if you were 'nice', you could help. I've noticed that most women prefer that pants are tight across the rear, but not really the front. When we were both in a store together, a friend rather forcefully stopped me from buying my usual jeans and had me try on a different pair. She didn't approve them until I showed her the back. How about proper MOPP suit closure being checked with CN? :yikes:
:shrug: It's a woman's world. Us poor guys have to endure difficulty standing/walking/sitting (in the workplace no less!) so that a woman's right to go topside 'commando' can be preserved.
Ahh, C'mon Gaear...like you wouldn't have that particular um difficulty regardless? (Not you specifically...men in general.)
I guess. Still, I think you have to admit that this gal is, shall we say, having her cake and eating it too. Maybe two or three times over even.