If the opinion is good enough for the strongest mathmetical mind in man's history, it's good enough for me. Stephen Hawking is just a half a step away from divine ascension. Or half a wheel roll, whatever. What confuses me is that Hawking has to be chaotic because he's all about math but I don't see him as much of a disorganized person, just the opposite really. Hawking: Aliens may pose risks to Earth Astrophysicist says extraterrestrials likely exist, but could be dangerous LONDON - British physicist Stephen Hawking says aliens are out there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with extraterrestrial life. Hawking claims in a new documentary titled "Into the Universe With Stephen Hawking" that intelligent alien life forms almost certainly exist — but warns that communicating with them could be "too risky." "We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet," Hawking said. "I imagine they might exist in massive ships ... having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they can reach.” The 68-year-old scientist said a visit by extraterrestrials to Earth might well be like Christopher Columbus arriving in the Americas, "which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans." He speculated that most extraterrestrial life would be similar to microbes, or small animals. Microbial life might exist far beneath the Martian surface, where liquid water is thought to trickle through the rock. Marine creatures might also conceivably live in huge oceans of water beneath a miles-thick layer of ice on Europa, a moon of Jupiter. But if a scientific census could be extended beyond our solar system to the rest of the Milky Way and beyond, the odds in favor of life's existence rise dramatically, Hawking said. "To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational," he said. “The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like." Hawking said an attack by interstellar predators is just one of the dismaying possibilities in the search for intelligent life beyond Earth. Another possibility is that intelligence itself might be inimical to life. Hawking pointed out that humanity has put itself on the edge of its own destruction by creating nuclear bombs and other weapons of mass destruction. "If the same holds for intelligent aliens, then they might not last long," he said. "Perhaps they all blow themselves up soon after they discover that E=mc2. If civilizations take billions of years to evolve, only to vanish virtually overnight, then sadly we've next to no chance of hearing from them." Hawking has become one of the world's best-known scientists — not just because of his theoretical work on cosmology and black holes, but also because he has achieved so much while coping with a paralyzing neural disease for most of his life. In recent years he has become a prominent advocate for space travel, contending that humans must journey into the heavens and going through zero-gravity training himself. "Into the Universe With Stephen Hawking" had its television premiere in the United States on the Discovery Channel on Sunday, and is due for broadcast in Britain next month.
All Gods are chaotic by nature. Didn't know math was chaotic. Why is it? Chaotic people tend to build structure around themselves of some sort to contain their chaotic nature. Seems to me, just a thought, that Hawkins had some imposed structure due to his illness.
Chaos theory is a field of study in mathematics, physics, and philosophy studying the behavior of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions. This sensitivity is popularly referred to as the butterfly effect. Small differences in initial conditions (such as those due to rounding errors in numerical computation) yield widely diverging outcomes for chaotic systems, rendering long-term prediction impossible in general.[1] This happens even though these systems are deterministic, meaning that their future behaviour is fully determined by their initial conditions, with no random elements involved.[2] In other words, the deterministic nature of these systems does not make them predictable.[3] This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos.
I just thought of something else too. Why ain't Hawking being consulted on that Halogen collider project on the border of Switzerland and France? He would be the one person I figure that would be absolutely essential when dealing with the experiment of creating anti-matter. They are going to collide 2 atoms at the speed of light. They say that when this happens, it creates very miniscule black holes in the immediate area, not powerful enough to suck in our planet or anything else. It's on Wiki if you want to read about it. I haven't been following it for a long time now but I haven't heard of no astounding new discoveries so I assume they are just sitting on their hands.
Just one thing. Halogen collider? Don't you mean Hadron collider? Well, technically I'd say it's possible there are aliens somewhere in space. Just like Hawking said. Mathematics.
The CERN LHC (Large Hadron Collider) in Switzerland. Particle colliders are OLD news. Since we didn't destroy the universe at the Trinity Event, we probably don't have much to worry about. Mathematics is inherently orderly. Chaos theory is an attempt to describe certain systems. As you already know, the beating of a butterfly's wings has little effect beyond it's immediate vicinity. Overall, the Earth is an inherently stable system. Otherwise it would have ceased to exist long ago. Tomorrow will be like today is like yesterday. Hawking is a Physicist. Physicists only THINK they are Mathematicians.
I'm not going to be the one to naysay him. He'd be talking way above my head, and not just because of the ED-209 urban defense system voice. :yes:
Actually, I agree with him. Intelligent life is mathematically close to a certainty. But speaking as an engineer, the First Law of Thermodynamics is going to make invasion a losing proposition. Enormous amounts of matter, energy and time would be required to successfully mount a non-microsopic invasion. OTOH, more OLD news. The invasion has already occurred. We are already here. The bad news is: While we have successfully taken over, we are stuck here. We'd better stop crapping on our dinner plates.
What was that thing I heard about a fireball over Wisconsin this week or maybe last week? I wonder if that was an alien ship that got to close to our atmosphere and went into re-entry burn. You would think alien technology would be advanced enough to protect against that. And which planet were they coming from? Maybe it wasn't re-entry burn but they were from Mars, which is supposed to be very hot.
That part about civilizations always destroying themselves is something that occurred to me as well. Also, it seems that above a certain point, more intelligence does not equal better chances of survival - rather the opposite, even, it seems. (see idiocracy) In short, we're fucked, and so are all the other aliens out there.
