Icewind Dale: ToEE - Total Conversion

I just restarted playing the original IWD and I have just completed Kresselack's areas - oh boy, the battle engine still sux rocks. It's no wonder I never replayed any of these games.

I can't wait for the IWD:TOEE version.

Is the plan still a release per chapter?

Chapter 1 = Kuldahar, Vale of Shadows and the Temple of the Forgotten God

So there's still a fair bit of Chapter 1 map work and game play to get done, yeah?

 

Great, thanks for the update.

One thing that I noticed in IWD is that mage spells are hard to come by so you aren't too overpowering for the battles at hand.

As you explore higher level dungeons then you find higher level mage scrolls. I am not sure how this can be done in the TOEE version since you basically have instant access to new spells when you level up.

 

I do not have the EE version, but, yes, Orrick sells scrolls and his selection is quite limited.

The EE version has added quite a few, so I will be missing those spells

One of the big differences is that in ToEE you gain spells during level up, but in IWD you do not so if you don't have a scroll for a particular spell then you will never have that spell. I like this process actually. Why should spells *magically* show up in your spell book just because you leveled up?

This shows the scroll availability per spell and its location:
Arcane spell scroll availability | Icewind Dale Wiki | Fandom

You start the game spell-less and you can't even get Magic Missile until you get to Orrick, so starting with Easthaven and the Pass you only have Sleep and Chromatic Orb if you are inclined to steal them from Pomab. Which you are basically forced to steal them otherwise your mage will have zero spells. That is why thieves are not Lawful Good

The IWD:ToEE version will have slightly tougher battles with better AI, so having instant access to more spells (gained during level up) will be well compensated for by having tougher battles - i would think

 

Very interesting point actually. (I assume they do start with cantrips though?)
I think I could provide dll hacks to disable this if you want.

 

Please let Wizards (and spellbook-based casters) learn their spells at level time! All other casters learn their spells automatically at leveling or/and from other means!

 

Nope, no cantrips. Unless they were added in IWD:EE

I am not playing the EE-version, so I can't confirm this.

There shouldn't be a need to disable the automatic spell learning in the ToEE engine during level up. As @Endarire mentions, there are other classes without this limitation, but it may be a neat T+ house rule setting. Cleric/Druid/Paladins get their spells from a divine source, so that's different, but all arcane-based classes should be learning new spells from study

Yes, Orrick will change his scroll inventory based on the chapter. This is shown in the link in my previous post showing the scroll availability chart.

Side Question:
You mentioned that you are playing the IWD:EE so is this the basis of IWD:ToEE?

I ask because the EE-version adds a few more quests, more spells, weapons, etc, and class-kits and such from BGII

 

Was Balsurs Gate also like that or did wizards get spells on levelup? It sounds like a unique IWD feature..

 

Sorry, it has been way too long since I've played Baldur's Gate, so I don't rightly recall

 

I am sure BG is just like IWD and that after 1st level wizards must purchase or loot spells

 

Yeah, the good old days