dolio's spell fixes and additions 0.1 for Co8 6.0.0 NC

Re: How to fix death save or die spells to give experience

Thanks. I found that file and did the replacement as you suggested. Hope it works.

 

Re: How to fix death save or die spells to give experience

I would think so, turning undead and destroying them gives xp.

I'm going to have to ask our DM, he is a real font of DnD legalese.

Or, he's just real convincing when he makes stuff up.

 

Re: How to fix death save or die spells to give experience

I've never heard anywhere that they don't nor would common sense inform otherwise. It would be like saying that if you didn't save vs. slay living and died the character who cast it would wouldn't get xp but if you made your save and died from the damage the character would. What is the difference of a caster killing you with an empowered fireball vs. casting a save or die spell?

 

Re: How to fix death save or die spells to give experience

Pretty sure they're supposed to, there's nothing written in the SRD or handbook that suggests that they don't give any XP.

 

Re: How to fix death save or die spells to give experience

Unfortunately I don't but I believe that this what Dolio did to fix the issue of Finger of Death and Dismissal to award experience in his spell fix pack for version 6.0 http://www.co8.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8704. If you look at the spells that author hedetet posted at http://code.google.com/p/co8-test/source/browse/trunk/data/scr/ he uses the syntax for finger of death, death gaze, slay living, etc.

 

Re: How to fix death save or die spells to give experience

I got with a few prominent DM's, (if there is actually such a thing ) well, DM's I've known and participated in their campaigns over the years and they all said that regardless of HOW a foe is killed, the end result is xp, unless the foe and the pc are separated by too large of a level gap; ie ... lev 16 fighter kills a level 1 goblin = big fat goose egg, (zero).

They would all grant xp for say, a wizard casting finger of death upon a bugbear, (again level gap in mind).

So, there you have it ... uhmm what were we talking about again? :dizzy:

 

Slay Living and Finger of Death are the ones that don't properly award XP, I think. There might be others, maybe Dismissal?

 

http://www.co8.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7254

Dolio updated co8.py with code that gives temporary immunity to a creature and then assigned damage to the creature before removing from the board. I don't know if this is necessary after finding out that if you apply damage with the old co8.py before removing the unit it will still give you xp. I suppose Dolio's routine is called by some of his scripts (and I may call it too in my piecemeal fixes) and does just this for spells that don't have damage_dice or damage defined in the spellscript (like banishment?). I am updating the spells in piecemeal fashion (slay living, FOD, banishment (but I don't know if it is supposed to give xp), weird, circle of death, etc. If you want, I can send you the individual files after I have played with them in my private game.

This is weird that gives xp (code addition in bold. Underlined and italicized are said code that was copied)

from toee import *
from utilities import *

def OnBeginSpellCast( spell ):
print "Weird OnBeginSpellCast"
print "spell.target_list=", spell.target_list
print "spell.caster=", spell.caster, " caster.level= ", spell.caster_level
game.particles( "sp-illusion-conjure", spell.caster )

def OnSpellEffect ( spell ):
print "Weird OnSpellEffect"
remove_list = []
dice = dice_new( "3d6" )

for target in spell.target_list:
remove_list.append(target.obj)

game.particles( 'sp-Phantasmal Killer', target.obj )

# will save to negate, otherwise fort save to avoid death
if target.obj.saving_throw_spell( spell.dc, D20_Save_Will, D20STD_F_NONE, spell.caster, spell.id ):
# saving throw successful
target.obj.float_mesfile_line( 'mes\\spell.mes', 30001 )

game.particles( 'Fizzle', target.obj )

elif target.obj.saving_throw_spell( spell.dc, D20_Save_Fortitude, D20STD_F_SPELL_DESCRIPTOR_FEAR, spell.caster, spell.id ):

# fort save success, damage 3d6
target.obj.float_mesfile_line( 'mes\\spell.mes', 30001 )

# saving throw unsuccesful, damage target, full damage
target.obj.spell_damage( spell.caster, D20DT_UNSPECIFIED, dice, D20DAP_UNSPECIFIED, D20A_CAST_SPELL, spell.id )
else:

# fort save failure, kill
target.obj.float_mesfile_line( 'mes\\spell.mes', 30002 )

# kill target
target.obj.spell_damage( spell.caster, D20DT_UNSPECIFIED, dice, D20DAP_UNSPECIFIED, D20A_CAST_SPELL, spell.id )
target.obj.critter_kill()

spell.target_list.remove_list( remove_list )
spell.spell_end(spell.id)

def OnBeginRound( spell ):
print "Weird OnBeginRound"

def OnEndSpellCast( spell ):
print "Weird OnEndSpellCast"

This works too. Just add it right before the creature is killed (I got the idea from Holy word but reduced the damage from 52d52 to 1d1 so your ego stats(most damage done in single attack) in the logbook isn't ruined).

target_item.obj.damage( game.leader , D20DT_POSITIVE_ENERGY, dice_new("1d1"))



New Edit 2014: I cleaned up Dolio's changelog so it can be easier read.

If anyone want to check out his files just rename the .tam file to .zip