Vain person asks about higher education valuability.

Answering to this question without being wrongly understood or otherwise badly judged, needs a portion of explanation:

During the years 1995 – 1997 when I resided in the great cities of Belfast and Dublin, the word “[censored]” was the most loathsome word they knew. [censored] were firstly those of “the fucking” yanks who were not allowing the Island of Eire to re-unite.

 

Now I remember why I have stayed away from these so called debates.

Hatred, envy and name calling can put a very distasteful twist on any discussion.

 

How do you think people are going to to feel about the term [censored] ? Do you think they are going to respect you and your opinions? It is disrespectful to the country that provides you with the forum you are posting this in and it uses a term that is repulsive to almost all women that understand the implications of the term.

 

Thankfully, my poor knowledge of English prevents me from understanding what is going on.

 

Yes, be thankful indeed Sergio. The term Rocktoy is using would be universally regarded as a VERY great insult by anyone it is applied to. And he seems to know exactly that, and he seems to be using it to describe the majority of the readers of this thread.

 

Yes. You are right. I shouldn’t use that term. I’m sorry.

Although it is surprisingly widely used term in the internets by Finns (we must be a troll nation), but it shouldn’t be used unless someone calls us “Finnfags” first. My apologies, I’ll try to behave better.

 

Notice that the people who are using the term are the tards that think the YANKS are responsible for Eire not being reunited.

 

Well, GA, had not you wrote earlier about "responsibility" United States "feel" they have over the world?

And this "responsibility" somehow gives them "right" to interfere everywhere (on behalf of "democracy" and "freedom", of course oke: ).

Well, this is exactly why United States are responsible for everything bad/undesirable happening in the world


If I were to speak seriously, since USA is the greatest consumer, it is indeed responsible for everything happening more, than others.

 

You have a point. But in this case, reunification has not occurred mainly because the Northern Irish do not wish to reunite with the rest of Ireland.

It's REALLY complicated, and there's lots of finger pointing, but that's the gist of it. Most Americans, Irish or not, support reunification. But, shockingly (), there is little we are going to do about it. Amazing, since there have been more Irish immigrants to the U.S. than English.

It is my humble opinion that reunification will eventually happen, but will be delayed another century if violence continues.

 

Look to China and India, two newcomers to the crass world of mass consumerism. Later the Middle East, South and Central America and Southeast Asia. And, sadly, Africa last.

All this will weaken our power considerably! (And increase our exports.)

 

Well I do not think that the Yanks are entirely guilt free here. The Catholics. (i.e the Republicans, obviously the side I was residing with) saw the UK occupation of Tuaisceart Éireann quite similar with the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip: as it is known the Zionist can not keep their apartheid policies going on without the (silent) acceptance and/or backing up of their “big brother” the US of A. No need to remind you that when the Philistines finally grew tired of the Zionist terror and decided to take their plight to be resolved by impartial and international body, the UN, their plea was immediately rejected by the veto of the US.

Similarly the republicans of the Tuaisceart Éireann saw that the terror, the crimes against humanity/war crimes (notion of opinion maybe, but still the UK government has admitted its guilt for torture and other atrocities in Tuaisceart Éireann) committed by the (occupying) UK military, was (silently) sanctioned by the US and thus enabling it to continue. Keep in mind the timeframe, the cold war had just ended, the Scorpions sang about the “Wind of Change” (a great song, imo) as the Berlin wall crumbled down. Suddenly all was made anew in Europe and the na hÉireann hoped that maybe it would be their time too. After all, the great Eastern enemy was no more and the US didn’t need any more its most loyal lapdog; the UK. Maybe this time the US would be silent/absent and let the UK face the music of all its ill deeds, alone in the international forum. Alas, no such luck.

Untrue. The greatest dream and hope of the na hÉireann is a reunited Éire. Although the protestant descendants of the Anglo-Saxon occupiers; i.e. the so called Unionist, may disagree.

IMO it is REALLY simple: the catholic Celtic population wants their one and only island to be reunified, the protestant Anglo-Saxon descendants of their century’s old colonial master finally to leave for good. Of the agendas of the Unionist, I do not know nor care to know. I am biased, I know. I spent the last summers of my teens in Éire and of course I adopted the view of my hosts. But to feel the plight of na hÉireann was suiting for a Finn, we too have a history of oppression. Six hundred years as a Swedish colony and two hundred years of Russian oppression.

I was under the impression that the Clinton regime tried to find some solution to the dilemma of Tuaisceart Éireann as much as they tried to solve the one in Zion. But it had no time to bore fruit as the Bush Jr.’s regime abandoned such high goals and concentrated on waging wars over oil and crusading (for the latter I have no objections for, only my support).

This actually puzzles me. Aren’t these US Irish specifically from Éire, i.e. Republicans? Those who would vote for reunification of Éire? Why are they silent? Do they want the separation to continue? Or are they just poor and meaningless in the eyes of the Government, so they can be ignored? Unlike the wealthy and powerful Zionist, whose vote and financial support are vital to the White House?

Alas, I do not share your optimism. The situation in Tuaisceart Éireann is just complicated and the “empire of” UK is too fond of its last colony to allow the Unionist ever leave (even if they someday would actually want that). No, I think that the island of Éire will reunite a week before peace is found in the Cana, which would be two minutes before the Hell freezes over.

P.S. To all those who were offended by my ill use of words: “[censored]”, I wish to apology from the depths of my heart. I feel ashamed, even if I intended to use that term in a humorous/sarcastic way I realize now that I crossed a line there that should not be crossed and there is no excuse for that. Honestly I seek no trolldom and hurting people’s feelings is not my goal. Being “gritty” (?) is one of my many flaws, and I should learn to wait a moment and calm down, instead of going all righteous and name-calling. I hope you all can forgive me this shortcoming.

P.S.S. GA care to educate me? What “gits of it” means?

P.S.S.S. “tards”? Excuse my French but an “[censored]” sees it proper to call the God-fearing decent folk na hÉireann defected at birth after all. Maybe I am not the only one who should take a long look in the mirror. Do you not agree? This time my ill words may have been placed right?

 

I failed again.

 

Understood.

 

The American descendents of Irish immigrants are NOT silent. They are ardent supporters of reuniting Ulster with the rest of Ireland, and have provided most of the financial support for the various movements for decades. This support cooled considerably with the poor judgement shown by the IRA, and other movements, in the latter half of the 20th century.

Ulster has consistently voted to remain part of the United Kingdom, probably due to the poor Irish economic conditions. I'm honestly not sure all of this was on the up and up.

You seem to be unaware that the collapse of Communism in eastern Europe, including Germany, was brought about by Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul, with a little help from the Polish Labor Movement. None of those people were "Lappdogs".

Several other, insignificant, countries were a little more accomodating with the Soviets.

The "gist" of a matter is the essential part of it.