Circle of Eight Modpack v6 / v6 NC General Commentary & Discussion Thread

6.0.1 bug: if party member is feared, very often their radial menu will be the party leader's. The party leader's face, abilities, spells etc. I forget what the behavior is if you actually try to use the radial. You can still use the inventory normally, attack without using the radial, etc. Haven't been able to test it with 6.1.0 yet.

6.1.0 bug: Natures Ally I: summoned creature does not attack until following round. Spell description states creature acts immediately in same round. Will test subsequent versions of this spell as I level.

 

I can confirm both or these. On the summoned, it looks like the game determines their initiative roll them places them in the action queue. If they are faster than the person summoning them, they will appear before them in the queue and thus will not get to act that round. This is one reason I like to summon Earth Elementals, they are slow, so almost never lose their ability to go the round they are summoned.

 

So this just happened: cast Entangle on the giant frogs and hung back with ranged. Animal companion Jackal runs through and melees frog. Druid meanders into Entangle, then dismisses Jackal. Jackal runs back into Druid while Druid is entangled. Result:



Save spam, for the remainder of combat. A continuous stream of saves, independent of the turn clock. Does not affect play at all, other than to obscure the roll counter. It just keeps going like that the whole time, real fast.

Edit: I should also mention that I both dismissed the Entangle and moved away from that spot, neither stopped the spam. The saves continued to emanate from the spot where the Jackal merged into the Druid.

 

What makes it a candidate for "funny" bugs is that, even after combat concludes it leaves a persistent entangle effect around the area, and continues the save spam indefinitely. I wonder what happens when I zone?

 

Casting Holy Word gives a similar effect.

The bodies of the defeated seem to spam their failed saves over and over.

 

Well, i have finished the game with a Neutral Good team: 5 PC + Ronald + Phisella + Zaxis.

I would like to write the probably faults and some suggestions. I´m going to try explain me correctily because my english is very poor. Sorry.

I have played in win7 and Co8 6.1.0

FAULTS:

1- As i wrote it, Rannos is thin in the Nulb ambush. Before he was very fat.

2- I tried to destroy the orb of golden skull. I had to dismiss Phisella to make it. But then, when she joined again in the team she kept the orb yet. By the way, this action don´t appear in the journal (i don´t know if it´s a bug).

3- In the mission "Monster Mash", when you killed all Hextorites in the Temple and tried to talk with Canon Ramses, not appear any dialog about it. In fact, I have this mission unfinished.

4- In the mission "Building Credit". I forgot the second pay. When i came back to the Silver Consortium, the seller ask me 55000 + 27500. The only opcion is to say (more or less) "No, i no pay. i give you te castle". I must say that i had a lot of money and i can pay it. I think that this dialog must include other opcion with a "Yes...".

5- I remember, in other game, that in the ToEE i found a paper about the Zaxis´ sister. I haven´t found it this time.

SUGGESTIONS:

First all, i can imagine the difficult of modding. Thank you for the work.

A - "Arena of Heroes". I don´t like the origin of this quest: a magic book. I think that you could include it in Verbobonc, in a typical anual tournament. With more clasification fases. The PCs could receive some publicity in this event in Hommlet, for example. And when they win the tournament, they gain fame and Viscount or Prince Zook will want to hire them for drow bussines. Anyway, it was very entertaining! :yes:

B - "Moathouse Respawn". This is the quest that i like less. I think that it´s early for a respawn. Probably it will be in a few years but no in this game. Anyway, it include a mini-zuggtmoy. She represent to "Mother". This is the worst of all! :thumbsdow I suggest to keep the figure of Zuggtmoy only for the final. I remember when i fought with her the first time, to many years ago. Her figure was very amazing. Do you think about to change mini-zuggtmoy for a hooded woman dressed with a dark robe. I remember the "old woman", the disguise of Zuggtmoy in the final of the game. I belive that the figure of"old woman" is a better option than mini-zuggtmoy.

C - "Monster Mash". I belive that the monsters summoned are too big. I don´t like it.
And the hexorites can summon too many monsters. It´s a very difficult battle. I can not with all of them and I had to kill them one by one. Nobody give the alarm. It wasn´t real.

D - "The Slave Traders". This is the most difficult battle. My team have finished the game in 13 or 14 level. I abandoned this quest. It´s too hard for me.

About C and D. I recommend to drop the difficult. I know that some people can with it but i think that the most of the gamers cannot.

Finally, i want to give thanks to the modders. I like this game and this CoE is the best for it. :clap:

Bye!

 

About "give the alarm". I mean that the team walk until they can see the first hexorites. Then they stop and kill him (arrows, spells,...). When he is dead, walk a little more and kill the next one, etc. In all these time, nobody shout "Alarm! We under attack!" or similar. The other hexorites don´t help to the partner.

One more thing. I can listen the epilogue but i can´t watch it. It´s only a black frame.


Thank you again for your work.

 

I keep noticing that when I right click to get the radial menu with my characters, the portrait area in it has a see through part that outlines half a square. This is aesthetically unpleasing, and probably wasnt meant to happen. (See attached image)

Also, some monsters (I only recall kobolds) do not highlight when you press tab, even if they have items on their bodies still. This makes it difficult to find the ones with items to loot when theres a stack of dead bodies.

 

Be grateful that you still find some of the combats challenging - the game gets very boring fast once a player finds all of the combats in the game too easy! I personally find these combats too easy, and I would not want their difficulty to be made any easier.

The Royal Canadian previously suggested an easy way to kill the Hextor cell - just cast Stinking Cloud on them.

I recommend the following tips for defeating the slave traders:

1. Increase your characters' levels by doing what General Ghoul does - keep resting in the Greater Temple (i.e. the Temple of Elemental Evil dungeon level 4 (see map below)) for random encounters with monsters like Ettins (as a bonus, they have valuable loot as well).

2. Have your spellcasters choose the Craft Arms & Armor feat and then craft Holy Axiomatic Flame Burst Ice Burst Shock Burst +3 weapons for all of your characters.

3. Just before you talk with the slave traders, have your spellcasters cast Stone Skin, Death Ward, and Haste on all of your characters.

If you do all of the above things, then you shouldn't have a problem defeating the slave traders.

I can confirm that the note from Zaxis' sister is indeed in the game as my characters have picked it up during 2 separate play throughs of the game. The note is near the lower wall in the room just to the right of room number 3 in the map below (courtesy of Sorcerer's Place):

 

If you let lareth live and he gets caught one cannot trade with burnes's assistant anymore

 

Just an idea for future modding projects. I've read somewhere on this site suggestions to mod the G series (and maybe D and Q?) from AD&D days. How about the D&D 3.0 Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil? It takes place 10 years (or so) after the original AD&D TOEE, and involves a new force having moved in. All the same maps are used, with a few new ones, and 3.0 rules are virtually the same as 3.5, which might make it an easier project? The adventure is meant for level 4 - 14. Mind you, I'd love to see any of the old D&D stuff available with this game.

 

Pretty sure this isn't how Ghoul Touch is supposed to work. My Wizard casts it, and then anyone in my party within the 10' cloud radius who fails their save...



gets a +2 bonus to hit! Sweet, let me get some of that nauseous, paralytic cloud into my lungs. Wait...why does that sound familiar? Anyway, it even shows up as a bonus in the character sheet: